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Post by The Zrogfather on Oct 4, 2005 11:12:17 GMT -5
For these runs, I think we could take anyone who is L55+, meaning that most of our 50's could go. This would give everyone MC experience, and hopefully we'd get some drops of Cores.
We would need at least 20 people for trash runs. Less would just mean a lesson in high repair bills.
Zrog is specced for tanking (32 points in Protection), and I'd really like to gear him up for MT in MC. I already have the Thorium Brotherhood rep to make the Dark Iron gear, and I already have about +60 in +Def gear, which we'll need for some of the bosses in MC (more than we'll need FR, apparently).
We also REALLY need a skinner with 315 skinning... you achieve this with the skinning enchant on gloves (+5), plus Grizzle's Skinner (+10 skinning), which can be obtained off the Beast in UBRS (drop % unknown). This will allow us to skin the "dogs" of MC, and get Core Leather, which can be used to make Core Leather kits and some of the MC-grade Leather Armor.
Zrog
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Post by Aphramzo on Oct 4, 2005 11:48:30 GMT -5
55+ eh?
If I didn't know better I would say thats a challenge to me to get there by Friday. ITS ON NOW!
Time for killing!
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Post by r0ttenheart on Oct 4, 2005 11:51:02 GMT -5
while i look forward to going to mc i really dont like the idea of respeccing yet again...then trying to get fr armor to compliment my current assortment...how long will that take? grumble...
sometimes i hate wow
i hope we do not abandon our zg plans for this...no prereq quests, no specialized armor, smaller groups, new items
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Post by The Zrogfather on Oct 4, 2005 12:39:27 GMT -5
Well... I don't like ZG as much as MC, that's the main thing. ZG just frustrates me... I guess I have to move on past the bat lady and try something else.
Rottenheart, if you come to MC, you actually DON'T have to tank, at least not until the other tanks go down. If we run with Tainted as the other half of our raid, we will have plenty of warriors, and we can make some of THEM tank, while you go DPS.
Zrog
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Post by The Zrogfather on Oct 4, 2005 12:40:38 GMT -5
Aph,
You will also need to run the Attunement to the Core quest in BRD to be able to enter Molten Core easily. I think Rottenheart and some others might need it too. Please get that done before October 14th.
Zrog
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Post by Malthorn on Oct 4, 2005 12:43:53 GMT -5
Although Tainted has many tanks....we gotta be picky with grps...though i dont like to be cus i ant every1 i know to get to go.
Whos the best skinner we know?
Lets start the farming!!!!!!
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Post by Aphramzo on Oct 4, 2005 12:52:30 GMT -5
OMG, I was actually addressed by Zrog on this board! I think thats a first. Even though it was in a nasty tone  I will do my best to get that quest done by the 14th. Mal: I know Stomp is a 300 skinner. I am sure there are other probably too. |
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Post by Malthorn on Oct 4, 2005 12:55:46 GMT -5
We gotta get him that enchant and dagger? not sure what wep the skinning thing is.
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Post by The Zrogfather on Oct 4, 2005 14:55:35 GMT -5
Aph,
Sorry for the tone... didn't mean it to sound like "DO THE QUEST, LITTLE PEON!"...
...maybe more like "DO THE QUEST NOOB!"
;-)
Nah, just thinking that the more ready you are for MC, the easier it will be for me to include you in a run, even if you are a low level.
Mal - Grizzle's Skinner is a dagger, I think. It's not really meant to fight with... just as an improved skinning knife.
Zrog
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Post by r0ttenheart on Oct 4, 2005 15:15:06 GMT -5
has anyone here ever done an mc trash run?
is it much harder than strat? similar? thoughts?
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Post by Aphramzo on Oct 4, 2005 15:15:28 GMT -5
I couldn't care less what the tone was, I am just happy to be included.
*Is giddy*
You guys are a good group about remembering the old adage 'You were a noob once too".
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Post by r0ttenheart on Oct 4, 2005 15:59:00 GMT -5
shush noob
/jk
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Post by Malthorn on Oct 4, 2005 16:40:31 GMT -5
Ive done trash mob run, but we had 35 of us. Though none of us had much exp there so no1 rly geared for it.
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Post by The Zrogfather on Oct 5, 2005 8:06:51 GMT -5
Rottenheart,
MC, trash run or no, is about as different from Strat as a 15-man UBRS run is from ganking. Ok, maybe not that different, but...
In MC, people have to be a LOT more coordinated. There are usually 2+ mobs to fight, and because of their special abilities, it's sometimes critical that people even STAND in the right places, nevermind what they actually DO.
Focus-fire and correct target choice is key in MC. Often, there is at least one target that has to go down FAST, and sometimes there are adds / summons that have to be killed as soon as they spawn. Because things are so TOUGH, you really need MANY people to cooperate to get those various tasks done.
This is why people like things like CTRA (CT_RaidAssist) so much... the raid leader(s) can communicate what needs to be done.
The downsides of MC is that sometimes you can feel like an automaton (or lowly peon), and other times you have to do a LOT of waiting around, while things get explained, etc.
Similar to ZG, strategy is important in MC because one person doing the wrong thing or standing in the wrong place (usually the latter) can wipe a whole raid by bringing adds or causing a mob to run amuck.
On the plus side, you will see and fight mobs and bosses that you would NEVER otherwise see, the loot is incredible (even just to see it), and it's VERY cool to feel part of a 40-man raid that's just ticking along.
Zrog
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Post by r0ttenheart on Oct 5, 2005 10:01:00 GMT -5
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