fire to frost respec

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

UPDATED!!!!!!!


Arcane Talents (18 points)


Improved Arcane Missiles - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.


Arcane Concentration - 5/5 points
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.


Evocation - 1/1 point
While channeling this spell, your mana regeneration is active and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 seconds.


Improved Arcane Explosion - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Arcane Explosion by 1.5 seconds.


Improved Counterspell - 2/2 points
Gives your Counterspell a 100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.



Frost Talents (33 points)


Permafrost - 5/5 points
Increases the duration of your chill effects by 3 seconds.


Improved Frostbolt - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Frostbolt spell by 0.5 seconds.


Ice Shards - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Frost spells by 100%.


Winter's Chill - 3/3 points
Increases the power of your chill effects by slowing the target's movement by an additional 10%.


Piercing Ice - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your frost spells by 6%.


Cold Snap - 1/1 point
When activated, this spell finishes the cooldown on all of your frost spells.


Improved Blizzard - 1/3 point
Adds a chill effect to your Blizzard spell. This effect lowers the target's movement speed to 70% of normal. Lasts 1.50 seconds.


Arctic Reach - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your Frostbolt spell and the radius of your Frost Nova and Cone of Cold spells by 20%.


Frost Channeling - 3/3 points
Reduces the mana cost of your frost spells by 15%.


Ice Block - 1/1 point
You become encased in a block of ice, protecting you from all physical attacks and spells for 10 seconds, but during that time you cannot attack, move, or cast spells.


Improved Cone of Cold - 3/3 points
Increases the damage dealt by your Cone of Cold spell by 35%.


Ice Barrier - 1/1 point
Instantly shields you, absorbing 455 damage. Lasts 1 minute. While the shield holds, spells will not be interrupted.

Level 40: 549 damage absorbed
Level 52: 678 damage absorbed
Level 58: 818 damage absorbed

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

Ipit i know yer frost so yer input is we great with the experince you've had with it

[Ipit]

Well, the one thing I would recommend is that as nice as Improved Cone of Cold is, I never use it in groups. Forst channeling is always a good talent to max out. I guess it kind of depends on what you plan to do more, group or solo.

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

well, i do use CoC farly often on both sides, usally in an instance when AOE is needed ill usally hop in the center of the group, nova > CoC, step back wait a about 10-15 secs then hit up flame strike/blizzard.

then again i dont really use CoC for the damage but for of the slowing effect, hmm let me bust out the talcalc again here and switch a few things around.

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

ok i just updated it a bit, im still trying to figure it out if ice barrier is worth the point or should i shift that point over to imp blizz, thinking about it the chill effect is only 1.5sec and the barrier could be good for stealing flags, hehe

[Malthorn]

I hate frost........so you two battle this out

[Aphramzo]

I am thinking of respec'n frost and showing you whats what. But just make sure for the most part you spec with stuff that makes you stronger in a group, as thats where most of your time will be spent.

Also, Buring, I am never taking any water from you again. Gross.

[Ipit]

I don't know, I don't really think that frost has a lot of differnet talents that are great for groups. It's great for soloing, but I honestly think that arcane would be better and I am considering changing my spec once I hit 60 to mostly arcane.

www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mages/talents.html?3555500100514310000000000000005050030000000000

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

ok well i just watch a 51 allience mage solo 3 mobos at a time in sorrow hill, i know he was frost speced cause he was spamming frost nova and using blizzard for AoE damage while slowing the whole group of mobos down. to me most of the frost spec is there for better group control and to help those runners not run so far.

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

warlocks dont need water just lifetap and bandage

[Ipit]

Okay, two random thoughts on your updated build, Burning. First you don't really need permafrost. Mostly because you should be chain casting frostbolt so the mobs should be slowed anyway. Also, for soloing purposes you will really want to consider shatter. +50% crit rate on frozen targets is great, I crit a fair amount when I'm soloing.

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

ok i speced to get a jist of whats going on let me get a points, i think i may need to shift a point or 2 around.

ok this is what i have now

Class: Mage
Level: 54


Arcane Talents (21 points)

# Improved Arcane Missiles - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.

# Arcane Focus - 2/5 points
Reduces the chance that the opponent can resist your arcane spells by 4%.

# Arcane Concentration - 5/5 points
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.

# Improved Arcane Explosion - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Arcane Explosion by 1.5 seconds.

# Evocation - 1/1 point
While channeling this spell, your mana regeneration is active and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 seconds.

# Improved Counterspell - 2/2 points
Gives your Counterspell a 100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.

# Presence of Mind - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Mage spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.



Frost Talents (24 points)

# Improved Frostbolt - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Frostbolt spell by 0.5 seconds.

# Winter's Chill - 3/3 points
Increases the power of your chill effects by slowing the target's movement by an additional 10%.

# Ice Shards - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Frost spells by 100%.

# Piercing Ice - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your frost spells by 6%.

# Cold Snap - 1/1 point
When activated, this spell finishes the cooldown on all of your frost spells.

# Frost Channeling - 3/3 points
Reduces the mana cost of your frost spells by 15%.

# Ice Block - 1/1 point
You become encased in a block of ice, protecting you from all physical attacks and spells for 10 seconds, but during that time you cannot attack, move, or cast spells.

# Improved Cone of Cold - 3/3 points
Increases the damage dealt by your Cone of Cold spell by 35%.



Fire Talents (0 points)

# None

[malexandra]

Get Shatter. Seriously. It won't help you in MC, but it's very, very nice everywhere else. It gets even better when you have Frostbite (%chance to freeze instead of chill).

[Buring:NotThePoor!]

yea, ill be tweaking my built in the next few days after i hit 60. only got about 75k xp left to get

[phathmon]

You know you Frost/Arcain is teh shiat and fire is for noobs mal =P