Elemental

[Ipit]

I wish elemental shaman had something else to bring to a group except totem of wrath if you put 41 points into that tree, which if you were smart, you didn't do. The other dps classes tend to bring some form of CC or buff (enhancement shaman).

Now some of you may be thinking "you can throw out a couple of heals when needed". While this is true, I find that the shaman's limited mana pool doesn't really support throwing out a lot of lightning bolts, let alone heals to go with them. Anyways, this may not be making sense since I just woke up and was thinking about this and randomly posted about it.

[Vithigar]

None of the warlock trees add any utility whatsoever.

[Ipit]

Well, I know that warlock dps is more mana efficient (which doesn't surprise me and I'm, not saying that it shouldn't be) but they also have a succubus for CC or a felguard to help off tank.

I guess my point is: totem of wrath isn't a very good incentive to spec elemental for group buffing purposes. If you don't really that much extra to a group/raid other than generic dps when you have healing spells, chances are you're going to be expected to heal.

[falorn]

I think we've generally agreed that anything beyond 31-34 points in elemental is a waste. 41 definately is (I've done it and its nice, but still sucks w/o having access to Mana tide and all the resto stuff).

[Ipit]

For those of you who have gone elemental: how has your mana been holding up? I'm guessing the fights don't take very long so I'm guessing you play more like mages (which I must say, I don't mind).

I've bee ntempted to go elemental for a while now, but didn't want to waste the gold if it turnns out to be a pretty crumpy spec overall.

[The Zrogfather]

I tried Elemental on my L60 shaman, and I came to the conclusion that it makes very little difference unless you have the +magic dmg gear to go with it. My shammy is mostly geared for either +healing or +melee DPS, so I found that speccing elemental gave me a small buff to the things I was already weak in, and took a huge chunk out of my melee DPS ability (which was decent for my gear level).

So... I never saw the point. A shammy isn't going to be competing with a DPS caster anytime soon, unless it's in PVP and it's burst-damage-only. I find that shammies are the "truest" hybrid at the moment - okay at everything, master of none.

Zrog (Brun)

[firebreather]

I dont feel like giving a long rambling thought including math and talent trees right now. Crazy huh?

[WolfsRainer]

Well right now, after they added the crit = clearcast, with the right gear elemental shaman can be very mana efficient.

In 5 mans and on the trash mobs in Kara, I rarely have to drink.

[Malthorn]

firebreather said:

I dont feel like giving a long rambling thought including math and talent trees right now. Crazy huh?

Wow at how badly I missread this post.

I saw meth(math) and trees(actuall trees) and that reminded me of Alice in Wonderland with the shrooms and the tripping slug and .....and Im tired and goingtobe I think I need sleep.