Post by Purlop on Feb 21, 2006 11:04:05 GMT -5
Alright, rogues. I'm sure it's been done, but it hasnt been done by me. Here's a rough run of the numbers I did to verify the effect of poison. Check the logic and numbers, please!
The long version:
Poisions have a flat percentage to proc. They do not have a 'ceiling' like the chances to proc some wpns have (ie so many procs per minute). For the top end poison, its a 20% chance to land poison per hit, so if you have a faster wpn, you will land poison more times per minute. This info is per a site I found, so I can't confirm the accuracy of the proc rate (20%) and dmg (112-148), but... the application of this analysis is the same even ifs the info is 'off'.
Anyway, with this in mind, I ran a table comparing the highest instant poison (112-148 dmg when it procs) applied to various speeds for daggers (1.3 - 2.0 swing rates).
Seconds/Min - 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60
Swg Rate - 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 2
Swings/Min - 46.2 42.9 40.0 37.5 35.3 33.3 31.6 30.0
Proc% - 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20%
Proc/Min - 9.2 8.6 8.0 7.5 7.1 6.7 6.3 6.0
PDmg/Proc - 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130
PDmg/Min - 1200 1114.285714 1040 975 917.6470588 866.6666667 821.0526316 780
PDPS - 20.0 18.6 17.3 16.3 15.3 14.4 13.7 13.0
Rt2Rt Diff - 0.00 (1.43) (1.24) (1.08) (0.96) (0.85) (0.76) (0.68)
CummDiff - 0.00 (1.43) (2.67) (3.75) (4.71) (5.56) (6.32) (7.00)
The short version
Poision DPS added to a wpn is as follows:
1.3 - 20.0
1.4 - 18.6
1.5 - 17.3
1.6 - 16.3
1.7 - 15.3
1.8 - 14.4
1.9 - 13.7
2.0 - 13.0
What's this tell us?
This allows us to evaluate if a slower wpn is actually better or not to equip when it comes down to poison application.
Example 1
Alcor's Sunrazor
41 - 77 Damage
Speed 1.30
(45.4 damage per second)
vs.
Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger
64 - 119 Damage Speed 1.90
(48.2 damage per second)
The alcor dps with instant poison applied would be a 65.4 DPS (45.4 + 20) whereas the Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger would be a 61.9 DPS ( 48.2 + 13.7). The Alcor is a better DPS wpn.
Example 2
Let's compare the Alcor to the Gutgore Ripper...
Gutgore Ripper
63 - 119 Damage Speed 1.80
(50.6 damage per second)
Alcor = 65.4 (45.4 + 20.0) whereas the GGR is 65.0 (50.6 + 14.4). The alcor is slightly better DPS wpn...
Example 3
Now lets compare the alcor to the corehound tooth
Core Hound Tooth
57 - 107 Damage Speed 1.60
(51.2 damage per second)
Alcor = 65.4 ( 45.4 + 20.0)
CHT = 67.5 ( 51.2 + 16.3)
The long version:
Poisions have a flat percentage to proc. They do not have a 'ceiling' like the chances to proc some wpns have (ie so many procs per minute). For the top end poison, its a 20% chance to land poison per hit, so if you have a faster wpn, you will land poison more times per minute. This info is per a site I found, so I can't confirm the accuracy of the proc rate (20%) and dmg (112-148), but... the application of this analysis is the same even ifs the info is 'off'.
Anyway, with this in mind, I ran a table comparing the highest instant poison (112-148 dmg when it procs) applied to various speeds for daggers (1.3 - 2.0 swing rates).
Seconds/Min - 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60
Swg Rate - 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 2
Swings/Min - 46.2 42.9 40.0 37.5 35.3 33.3 31.6 30.0
Proc% - 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20%
Proc/Min - 9.2 8.6 8.0 7.5 7.1 6.7 6.3 6.0
PDmg/Proc - 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130
PDmg/Min - 1200 1114.285714 1040 975 917.6470588 866.6666667 821.0526316 780
PDPS - 20.0 18.6 17.3 16.3 15.3 14.4 13.7 13.0
Rt2Rt Diff - 0.00 (1.43) (1.24) (1.08) (0.96) (0.85) (0.76) (0.68)
CummDiff - 0.00 (1.43) (2.67) (3.75) (4.71) (5.56) (6.32) (7.00)
The short version
Poision DPS added to a wpn is as follows:
1.3 - 20.0
1.4 - 18.6
1.5 - 17.3
1.6 - 16.3
1.7 - 15.3
1.8 - 14.4
1.9 - 13.7
2.0 - 13.0
What's this tell us?
This allows us to evaluate if a slower wpn is actually better or not to equip when it comes down to poison application.
Example 1
Alcor's Sunrazor
41 - 77 Damage
Speed 1.30
(45.4 damage per second)
vs.
Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger
64 - 119 Damage Speed 1.90
(48.2 damage per second)
The alcor dps with instant poison applied would be a 65.4 DPS (45.4 + 20) whereas the Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger would be a 61.9 DPS ( 48.2 + 13.7). The Alcor is a better DPS wpn.
Example 2
Let's compare the Alcor to the Gutgore Ripper...
Gutgore Ripper
63 - 119 Damage Speed 1.80
(50.6 damage per second)
Alcor = 65.4 (45.4 + 20.0) whereas the GGR is 65.0 (50.6 + 14.4). The alcor is slightly better DPS wpn...
Example 3
Now lets compare the alcor to the corehound tooth
Core Hound Tooth
57 - 107 Damage Speed 1.60
(51.2 damage per second)
Alcor = 65.4 ( 45.4 + 20.0)
CHT = 67.5 ( 51.2 + 16.3)