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Post by Vithigar on Nov 29, 2005 13:16:07 GMT -5
Here it is. I didn't really feel like pulling a smushy and keeping my build a secret, didn't see the point.
Minimum Required Level: 60 Required Talent Points: 51
Affliction Talents - 20 points
# Improved Corruption - rank 5/5 # Improved Life Tap - rank 2/2 # Improved Life Drain - rank 5/5 # Improved Curse of Agony - rank 3/3 # Amplify Curse - rank 1/1 # Grim Reach - rank 2/2 # Nightfall - rank 2/2
Demonology Talents - 31 points
# Improved Healthstone - rank 2/2 # Improved Imp - rank 3/3 # Demonic Embrace - rank 5/5 # Improved Voidwalker - rank 3/3 # Improved Succubus - rank 3/3 # Fel Domination - rank 1/1 # Master Summoner - rank 2/2 # Unholy Power - rank 5/5 # Demonic Sacrifice - rank 1/1 # Master Demonologist - rank 5/5 # Soul Link - rank 1/1
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Post by Aphramzo on Nov 29, 2005 13:26:29 GMT -5
WTF, Vith! You are crazy.
How on earth could you put points into improved curse of agony and improved drain soul over fel concentration. That just makes NO sense. You are stupid, and your opinions are ALL WRONG!
Hehe, that really does surprise me though.
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Post by Vithigar on Nov 29, 2005 14:58:23 GMT -5
Because in all situations where it is important I won't be the one holding aggro. At least, that's my thinking on the matter anyway. I do miss it though, especially when I have no shards, my abyss shard hasn't cooled down and I need to have drain soul on something as it dies. Er... also, I don't have any points in Improved Drain Soul. That thing is garbage.
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Post by Aphramzo on Nov 29, 2005 15:23:50 GMT -5
Wow, I was way off on that one, huh? I am not sure if I missed typed mine, or miss read yours. Wow, just wow.
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Post by Aphramzo on Dec 2, 2005 8:56:05 GMT -5
Well the more I talk about respecing with McG, the more I think I might do it. I can always switch back if I dont like it. But I think I would pretty much copy this build. My demo tree would be the same, and my affilction tree would only be a little different.
That felhunter would help SO much in MC against lucy and mag with the resistances. My goodness. And its pretty clear that you can still do damn good damage with the build too. Basically, I am jealous. ;P Hell I wish I was at home right now so I could do this.
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Post by Aphramzo on Dec 4, 2005 13:58:37 GMT -5
I did infact respec Friday night, for what I thought would be higher survivablilty and lower damage. And much to my suprise I ended up doing MORE damage in molten core than all my previous trips. And then I get into BG, and wow, just wow. No longer do I fear rogues! It has really leveled the playing field for me with serveral classes that used to blow me away.
Ok, so I am better in Molten Core and PvP, so I am probably worse in soloing for 5 mans, right? WRONG. Soloing is much easier now, and my void walker not only holds aggro longer, but also when he loses it, I dont get hit nearly as hard. And as for 5 mans, I might do a little less damage than before, but my but no longer puckers when I see a mob run towards me.
Overall I would say 'I am lovin it'.
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Post by Exmodel on Dec 16, 2005 11:11:02 GMT -5
I’m thinking about re-re-specing into Demonology again for a few reasons, PVP being an obvious one. Soloing to 60 isn’t that big of a deal for me anymore being lvl 56 I don’t need to do as much of the drain tanking, which is one of the main reasons I had an affliction build. Also I have little exp in end-game instances, but from what little I have experienced and from what I’ve seen in videos staying alive isn’t easy and the demon build will certainly help that. On test relm I switched back a Demon build and I haven’t lost a duel to any class who accepted, I killed a 60 rogue and a 60 war, at 56, and it felt great.
The PVP strat is simple,and it works. Summon Void, soul link, death coil, fear, DoT’s, Destruction. If fear is resisted then you simply sacrifice the void and keep on casting, when your 2k damage shield is gone you simply hit fel domination, and instantly summon another for another 2k damage shield, i rarly come out of a battle with less than 75-80% health if i loose any at all. (sacrifice has no cool down and fel domination has a 15 min cool down). Another strat would be to have the void out, fight normal until you are low on health, sacrifice, then use fel domination to get another void, or use demonic sacrifice for one of the buffs, Imp give 15% increase in fire dmg, Succy gives 15% increase in shadow, void grants 3% of total health every 4 sec., and fel hunter grants 2% of total mana every 4 sec…
I just thought I’d get some opinions on the build and see what you guys thought.
Affliction.
Improved Corruption rank 5/5 Improved Life Tap rank 2/2
Demonology
Demonic Embrace rank 5/5 Fel Intellect rank 5/5 Fel Domination rank 1/1 Fel Stamina rank 5/5 Master Summoner rank 2/2 Unholy Power rank 5/5 Improved Enslave Demon rank 1/5 Demonic Sacrifice rank 1/1 Master Demonologist rank 5/5 Soul Link rank 1/1
Destruction
Cataclysm rank 5/5 Bane rank 5/5 Devastation rank 2/5 Shadowburn rank 1/1
the only thing i might change is taking all my destruction points out and put 3 into impro shadow bolt and go afflic down to nightfall, leaving all demon the same. anyway, please critique.
Ex
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Post by purlop2 on Dec 16, 2005 11:15:14 GMT -5
Warlock. Mmm... that's toon #3 on my list atm. Vith stomping ppl in 1:1 though is makin me anxious to level a lock. :lol: My plan... Rogue (main toon for pvp and isk making!) Warrior (for BS and Mining) Warlock (for 2nd pvp'r) Ill be sure to git back here for builds when Im set.
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Smushy
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Post by Smushy on Dec 16, 2005 12:22:04 GMT -5
It was not very cool of me to keep a secret, hehe
Yes Vith you found me out:
21 demon/30 affliction
Just got a little improved vw for my half-a-group tanking purposes, seems to come in handy
Also imp life drain + curse of exhastion (which is a total waste) and siphon life
I do like the 31/20 build as well, just have not had enough patience to respec again
I find that sacing the voidwalker comes in handy in MC on Baron Geddon for sure and maybe Mag since they widdle your life down slowly, seems to make a big difference, so screw everyone thats wants more hps, lol
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Smushy
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Post by Smushy on Dec 16, 2005 12:24:05 GMT -5
Vith and I make a good team
I am sure we could hold our own even in a 2man dm east run.
Garunteed we could do it if aph came along, but he's a noob, lol
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Post by Smushy on Dec 16, 2005 12:27:45 GMT -5
Oh and to specify the 500hps every 5 seconds:
sac vw=125 every 3 sec + siphon life=50 every tick + drain life=120 per tick = Somewhere around there just dont want to do the math exact #'s may not be right but close enough to get the point across
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Post by Aphramzo on Dec 16, 2005 13:17:48 GMT -5
Dearest Smushy
Please refer to the flow chart below as to who is a noob:
Vith >= Aph > Smushy > others
That’s right, there IS an equals sign now between us Vith! Soon I shall be LOCK SUPREME!!
LOL, good to see you on our boards again smushy!
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Smushy
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Post by Smushy on Dec 16, 2005 13:25:38 GMT -5
Hehe,
I am glad to be stopping by, I really miss this place
Stupid endgame ruins all the fun
I am about to put the lock on the backburner for up and comer's
Will still be getting on every 4 days for mooncloth harvesting
I like my gear so far but need to start working on my second purple set for the shammy
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Post by Vithigar on Dec 20, 2005 9:40:25 GMT -5
I've been playing my alts more lately as well. I'm generally all too happy to use Vithigar for an instance run or whathaveyou, but when nothing is going on I'm either farming felcloth, in battlegrounds, or wandering aimlessly. Battlegrounds is cool, but I can only handle so much at a time until either the inevitable losing streak or the asshole teammates get to me. So for now, my idle time goes towards my 28 druid, 25 shaman, and 15 warrior. Also, Aph, I will persist always in being that smallest step ahead of you.
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Post by Aphramzo on Dec 20, 2005 9:46:49 GMT -5
It must be easy to stay ahead when you can double my play time in any given week Aph-who-has-to-much-to-do-and-cant-think-of-an-original-closing-so-will-steal-one-from-Zrog-but-make-it-too-long
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