Tanking

[meanmoocow]

I have and up and coming warrior alt. I like tanking with him. this is how I plan on specing him. Only reason I posted this is 'cause I was asking what I thought was a good tank spec. This is a great tank spec that still leaves you with some ability to do things by yourself and gives you alot of improvements on skills use to tank multiple mobs. If i'm wrong, show me something better.

www.wowhead.com/?talent=pV0ezZE0bV0xoZcxt0IMb

[Rayfrost]

I wouldn't invest the 2 points in Improved Shield Wall. I would suggest using those points to buy you more rage like Improved Bloodrage.

[meanmoocow]

ty fo rthe feed back Ray.... only tank worth a shit in LotV who's not a druid (thats his offical title)

[Prune/Jak]

Ouch, moo. Ouch.

Anywho, here's my modification for what you had:

www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdZE0zV0xoZfVtoIMz

Imp Cleave sucks. Imp TC is highly unecessary. You're not interested in damage, and the reduced rage cost isn't worth it, since you don't cast TC all that much.

The anticipation talent isn't enough bang for the buck. You should easily get plenty of defence through gear. Those points are much better spent on shield spec for blocking. Your Shield Block ability is an excellent tanking tool, as blocks trigger revenge, your best threat per rage ability, and shield block basically guarantees a revenge proc. Having it able to block an extra attack is very useful. Great return on one point.

Imp Bloodrage is a great talent, you use bloodrage a lot in tanking and soloing.

Concussion blow is sweet. Taunt, Concussion Blow, Taunt, Battle Stance -> Mocking Blow, Taunt gives you a solid 15-20 glue aggro on a target for those pesky rogues who pull too much. Also lets you stun a mob that's on a caster/healer so you have time to get aggro back before they thrash them.

I stole the two points from imp shield wall for imp overpower. Overpower is awesome. I use it everytime it pops up when soloing, especially with a 2 hander.

Piercing Howl seemed like a good place to put one leftover point. I'm not committed to it.

--Prune.

P.S. my own Damage/tanking hybrid:
www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0xdAio0zzZVZfVtoGMz

[meanmoocow]

Very cool Prune- I do appreciate your imput cause My wrrior is only 27 and all prot thus far. I like your P.S. spec and think I will use it. Thanks

[meanmoocow]

P.S. I forgot Prune was in the Guild Jak lol- my bad

[The Zrogfather]

Actually, Improved TCLap is a godly tanking talent for multiple mobs, especially now that it's useable in Def Stance. Most full-tank-spec warriors are gravitating towards it.

You can usually reach the magical (uncrittable) 492 defense with gear, so Anticipation becomes less important. Instead, take Improved Shield block (requires Shield Specialization). The reason is that you need to be able to push crushing blows off the hit table (meaning that your block + dodge + parry% >= 100% while Shield Block is active). The ability of your Shield Block to absorb 2 hits instead of 1 means that you are MUCH more likely to block all the boss-hits coming at you.

The Fury tree is good for some soloing, but if you're tanking, Enrage doesn't do much for you, because you're not going to get critically hit (assuming you've gathered some good tanking gear). If you're NOT tanking in a group, you shouldn't be getting critted much either, since you'll not be the one holding the aggro. That said, it's a decent solo talent.

This is one way to modify your build: www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0cZE0zm0xoZcitoIMz0xo

Note that I've added 1h specialization (also helps with soloing) and Shield Slam (godly tanking talent - the most rage-to-aggro efficient).

Notice that I've removed Iron Will. Gavranchet swears by it, especially since it stacks with the Orc resistance, but I've never tried it myself.

I've personally never found that Anger Management makes much of a difference. I suppose 1 rage could put you over the top for some useful ability, but even a long fight is probably over in 15 secs, and that's only 5 extra rage.

Zrog

[meanmoocow]

That is a interesting spec. I like it. what spec do you use?

I've taken the imput you guys have given me and came up with this www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0cZE0zm0xoZcitoIMz0xo

[Prune/Jak]

You came up with the same one Zrog posted, unless you mislinked. I never really noticed the increased slowing effect from imp TClap. That makes it much more useful. My hybrid build is more biased toward damage, Zrog's is more biased toward tanking. Go with whatever you do more, I s'pose.

I'd definitely take Imp Bloodrage over 2 points in Anticipation. 8 defense isn't all that much. 6 rage doesn't seem like that much either, but it's half a sunder to start the fight off with at least.

--Prune.

[The Zrogfather]

My spec has been changing a lot lately, as I decide whether I want to be Fury, Arms, or Prot. It will likely be a balanced build that I settle with, though.

My problem is that I like Fury as a DPS tree better than Arms, but the bottom of the Fury tree frankly sucks (except Cruelty), and the bottom of the arms tree is pretty damn good (even for Prot warriors).

My other issue is that 5man tanking is greatly facilitated by at least 15 points in Prot, and made MUCH easier by having Shield Slam. Doing either of these makes it a lot more difficult to get the low-end goodies in Arms and still get any decent talents in Fury. I'm also not happy about the upcoming nerf to Flurry (from 30% to 25% max speed boost).

Here's another spec for your consideration:
www.wowhead.com/?talent=LiMcbhbZVZcipoIMzcxs

Z

[pamplona]

I've only played a warrior to 15th level, but the HGA tank boards have some really good discussions on tank specs.

[meanmoocow]

I all honesty, I forgot what the HGA address is. I haven't been on there since before x-pac

[Prune/Jak]

hga.guildportal.com

noob.